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作者: 陈礼铭   川普介绍川习会谈内幕 2017-04-12 12:31:20  [点击:808]

晚餐用完,正吃巧克力蛋糕时,(3:41)川普:于是我说“主席先生,我给你说个事儿。”(此处与记者对话)(4:21)川普:所以是这样,我说“我们刚刚发射了59颗导弹,飞往伊拉克”。记者:你是说飞往叙利亚。川普:对,“飞往叙利亚。我想让您知道一下。”因为我不想让他回去后……我们马上就要完事儿,已经忙活了一天,在棕榈海滩……我们马上就要完事儿,那他怎么办?吃完甜点,回去,然后有人跟他说刚才跟你吃饭的那个家伙刚刚对叙利亚发动了进攻……记者:他怎么反应?他沉默了有十秒钟,然后让翻译重复一遍。我觉得苗头不好。然后他跟我说:“任何人用毒气……任何人残暴到用毒气屠杀儿童的地步,我赞成。”记者:他同意了?川普:他赞成了。

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BARTIROMO: You redirected navy ships to go toward the Korean Peninsula.

What we are doing right now in terms of North Korea?

TRUMP: You never know, do you?

You never know.

BARTIROMO: That's all (INAUDIBLE)...

TRUMP: You know I don't think about the military.

BARTIROMO: Yes.

TRUMP: I'm not like Obama, where they talk about in four months we're waiting — we're going to hit Mosul.

BARTIROMO: Right.

TRUMP: And in the meantime, they get ready and like you've never seen — look, they're still fighting. Mosul was supposed to last for a week and now they've been fighting it for many months and so many more people died.

I don't want to talk about it. We are sending an armada, very powerful. We have submarines, very powerful, far more powerful than the aircraft carrier, that I can tell you.

And we have the best military people on Earth. And I will say this. He is doing the wrong thing. He is doing the wrong thing.

BARTIROMO: Do you...

TRUMP: He's making a big mistake.

BARTIROMO: — do you think he's mentally fit?

TRUMP: I don't know. I don't know. I don't know him. But he's doing the wrong thing. I have a very, very good meeting with President Xi of China. I really liked him. We had a great chemistry, I think. I mean at least I had a great chemistry — maybe he didn't like me, but I think he liked me.

We were going to have a 10 or a 15 minute sit-down. It lasted for three hours. Then the next day, it was another schedule, because everything is very orderly with the Chinese, frankly.

And we had meetings scheduled. Well, the 15 minutes on the first day lasted for three hours. The 15 minutes on the second day lasted for two hours, just one-on-one, the two of us with interpreters.

And I mean we understand each other. I think he's, you know, a person that I got along with really well. We had a good chemistry, yes.

BARTIROMO: Did he give you any suggestion that he would help...

TRUMP: Well...

BARTIROMO: — with North Korea?

TRUMP: We had the meeting.

BARTIROMO: Did you get into trade and currency?

TRUMP: The first thing I brought up was North Korea. I said you've got to help us with North Korea, because we can't allow it. And it's not good for you. And you have a tremendous power because of trade.

Now, he then explains thousands of years of history with Korea. Not that easy. In other words, not as simple as people would think.

They've had tremendous conflict with Korea over the years. Now, his father was in China four times. He was never in China.

So I said, look, you have a tremendous power because of trading through the border. If they don't get food, they don't get, you know, they can't sell their coal. In fact, I hear today two massive coal ships from North Korea were sent back to North Korea, heading to China. They were sent back, which is a very good sign.

But I think China can help us. I hope China can help us. We talked about trade and I can tell you, China will do much better on trade if they help us with North Korea.

BARTIROMO: And you think he knows that?

TRUMP: I think he knows that. I told him that, yes.

BARTIROMO: When you were with the president of China, you're launching these military strikes.

TRUMP: Yes.

BARTIROMO: Was that planned?

How did that come about that it's happening right then, because right there, you're saying a reminder, here's who the superpower in the world is, right?

TRUMP: You have no idea how many people want to hear the answer to this. I have had — I have watched speculation for three days now on what that was like (INAUDIBLE).

BARTIROMO: When did you tell him?

TRUMP: But I'll tell you (INAUDIBLE)...

BARTIROMO: Before dessert or what?

TRUMP: But I will tell you, only because you've treated me so good for so long, I have to (INAUDIBLE) right?

I was sitting at the table. We had finished dinner. We're now having dessert. And we had the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you've ever seen and President Xi was enjoying it.

And I was given the message from the generals that the ships are locked and loaded, what do you do?

And we made a determination to do it, so the missiles were on the way. And I said, Mr. President, let me explain something to you. This was during dessert.

We've just fired 59 missiles, all of which hit, by the way, unbelievable, from, you know, hundreds of miles away, all of which hit, amazing.

BARTIROMO: Unmanned?

Brilliant.

TRUMP: It's so incredible. It's brilliant. It's genius. Our technology, our equipment, is better than anybody by a factor of five. I mean look, we have, in terms of technology, nobody can even come close to competing.

Now we're going to start getting it, because, you know, the military has been cut back and depleted so badly by the past administration and by the war in Iraq, which was another disaster.

So what happens is I said we've just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq and I wanted you to know this. And he was eating his cake. And he was silent.

BARTIROMO: (INAUDIBLE) to Syria?

TRUMP: Yes. Heading toward Syria. In other words, we've just launched 59 missiles heading toward Syria. And I want you to know that, because I didn't want him to go home. We were almost finished. It was a full day in Palm Beach. We're almost finished and I — what does he do, finish his dessert and go home and then they say, you know, the guy you just had dinner with just attacked a country?

BARTIROMO: How did he react?

TRUMP: So he paused for 10 seconds and then he asked the interpreter to please say it again. I didn't think that was a good sign.

And he said to me, anybody that uses gases — you could almost say or anything else — but anybody that was so brutal and uses gases to do that young children and babies, it's OK.

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BARTIROMO: He agreed.

TRUMP: He was OK with it. He was OK.

I'll tell you, we get along really well. I really like being with him. I'm going to be speaking to him tonight at 10:00, actually. I have a call tonight at 10:00. It's all set up with the president of China.

But we got along — there was a great feeling, I think, between both of us.

Now, we have two very different countries, two very different peoples. But I think he understood the message and I understood what he was saying to me.
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